That's the question we here at Tourneybubble are asking ourselves after this past weekend. In all honesty, there doesn't even appear to be 68 quality teams for the tournament this year.
Now obviously some of the conference champions that get the auto-bids will not be apart of the top 68 teams in the country, but are there even 50 worthy teams for the NCAA tourney this year? It's highly debatable. In past years we have had teams scrapping and clawing to get in, and some very good, capable teams were left out of the field. This year? If you get left out of the big dance, you can have ZERO complaints because there are hardly even enough decent teams to come up with a field. Any plans to expand the tourney past 68 need to be trashed immediately.
The biggest loser of the weekend was without a doubt, the Texas Longhorns. Texas was squarely on the bubble before this weekend, what with their 1 good OOC win at home against Temple. Just an embarrassing, embarrassing OOC schedule, particularly in light of the fact that they lost to Oregon State and NC State on a neutral court and got blown out at UNC. As I said, their only OOC road win was at a mediocre UCLA and their only good OOC win was Temple at home. Not remotely good enough. They didn't help themselves this weekend by barely squeaking by a terrible Texas Tech team in OT after 2 straight losses, one of which was to Ok St. Right now, they are 8-8 in the Big 12, but they have exactly TWO in conference wins over tournament teams, both close wins at home over Iowa State and Kansas State. They have a must win on Wed. against Oklahoma at home and then in our opinion, they need to beat Kansas on the road to get an at-large. Without that, their best win of the season on the road would remain UCLA. Is that the resume of a bubble team? Not in our opinion. OF course, the NCAA will probably backdoor them in because of the lack of other quality teams and because they are freaking Texas, but right now, we don't think what they have done is good enough. They have work to do in the Big 12 Tourney if they don't go 2-0 this week.
Next up on the loser list is NC State. The Wolfpack have lost 4 in a row after this weekend's defeat at the hands of non-tourney Clemson. Now granted, 3 of the last 4 games have been against Duke, Florida State and UNC, the 3 best teams in the country, which in and of itself wouldn't hurt them, but when you follow up loses to those 3 teams, 2 of which were at home, with a loss to Clemson, people start to ask questions. Namely, who HAVE you beat? The answer to that question is pretty ugly for NC State. To be fair to the Wolfpack, they did play a fairly tough OOC schedule. They also failed to beat any of the really tough teams they played. Texas on a neutral court, another bubble team, was their best OOC win. They lost to Vandy, Stanford, Indiana and Syracuse. Again, a tough slate, but they didn't win any of the big ones other than Texas. Their next best OOC win was UNC-Asheville at home. Now, I know some of you are saying "man, that's terrible", but UNC-Asheville isn't that bad. 21-9, 16-2 and in first place in a grantedly terrible Big South.
The real problem for NC State is who they have beaten in the ACC. Or rather, who they haven't. They haven't beaten a ranked team this year despite a ton of opportunities. Their two best ACC wins are @ Miami and Maryland at home. So in other words, they might not have beaten an NCAA tourney team yet this year. Their home loss to Ga Tech by double digits is just brutal. Their next two games are at home against Miami and @VT. If they don't go 2-0, they are going to have to do some serious work in the ACC tourney or they will be in big time trouble.
Yet another team that is playing itself out of the tournament is West Virginia. WVU's number's look great. Top 50 rpi, top 10 strength of schedule. Basically a lock right? To quote that idiot Lee Corson, "not so fast my friend!". The Mountaineers have lost seven of their last 9 games. Not only that, but two of those losses were just brutal, by 16 points at St. Johns and a loss at home to Pitt in the backyard brawl. Losing 7 of 9 is bad, but having an overall losing record in your conference, even a conference as tough as the Big East, is just as bad. Thankfully for WVU, their next two games are both very winnable. They have an absolutely stone cold must win at home against Depaul and then what essentially boils down to a potential "at-large play-in game" between themselves and South Florida on the road. They lose that game, the best they can finish in the Big East regular season is 8-10. They'd also most likely end up 10th in their conference.
The Mountaineers did most of their heavywork OOC, where they have big time wins over Akron, Oral Roberts, Kansas State and Miami. They were tripped up OOC against Kent State at home and Miss St., but those are both very good teams. They also had a 2 point neutral court loss to Baylor in OT, which again, didn't hurt them at all. In the Big East however, they have won 2 total games out of the numerous, numerous chances they have had against NCAA tourney teams. Both wins came at home, beating Georgetown and Cincinatti. The thing that should really frighten every WVU fan is that they have ZERO good road wins this year. Not a single top 75 road win. The best road win they have this entire season is @ Pittsburgh, who is 15-14 overall. Yikes. So again, right now we think WVU is probably in just because of how weak the bubble is, but honestly, they could easily play themselves out this coming week. They need to win at South Florida so they can actually have one road win over a team that is a borderline NCAA tourney. The selection committee has stated in the past that road wins are important for NCAA tourney at-larges, it was often cited as a reason why VCU got in last year because of their road wins over ODU and Wichita State last year. If the Mountaineers want to get in, they would do well to finally win a good road game at USF. Or at the very least go on a deep run in the Big East tourney.
The next two teams we will mash together, Seton Hall and South Florida. We here at tourneybubble absolutely DEPLORE the idea of the Big East getting 10 teams in. When the 10th place team from the Big East gets in over a regular season champ from a league like the CAA like Drexel or say Oral Roberts from the Summitt, it absolutely drives us insane. No 10th place team is EVER worthy of an at-large. So with that in mind, how do you judge a team like South Florida??? They are currently tied for fourth in the extremely tough Big East which pretty much ANY year would be good enough for an automatic at-large, but the Bulls were pretty much awful OOC and haven't beaten ANY of the top Big East teams. They have benefitted immensely from the unbalanced Big East schedule and as such, it is honestly conceivable that the 4th place team in the Big East USF, gets left out for the 10th place team in West Virginia. Just a crazy, crazy year in the Big East.
The Bulls were, in the words of Sir Charles "just turrrrrible" OOC. They lost to two non-tourney teams in ODU and Penn St. in an early season tourney, lost to a pretty bad Auburn team and got absolutely crushed by Kansas and another bubble team, VCU. Their best OOC win was a home win over a quickly fading Cleveland State that will also not make the NCAA tourney. They are an impressive 11-5 in the Big East, but when you take a closer look at those numbers, it really starts to break down. They have 2 total wins, ALL SEASON LONG, over NCAA tourney teams. Now for the really crazy part. They were both ONE POINT home victories! Seton Hall and Cincy are both, most likely, NCAA tourney teams. But neither are big time marquee wins. And again, their best road win this season is at Pitt. The numbers just aren't there, despite their impressive Big East conference record. Their remaining games are at Louisville and at home to West Virginia. Hate to sound like a broken record, but they need to win at least 1 of those and would really do themselves a big favor by winning both. They lose both and their only path to the tourney is a run to the Big East Tourney Final.
As for Seton Hall, the Pirates have a much more complete resume. Where as South Florida got smoked by VCU, the Pirates dominated VCU on a neutral court. They also had a solid neutral court win against a borderline NCAA tourney team in St. Joe's, beat the same Auburn team that South Florida lost to by 22 and had a very impressive OOC road win at Dayton. Credit to them for taking the game and even more credit to them for winning it in a tough place to play. Yes,
Saturday's brutal loss to Rutgers hurt them. Yes, they had a tough 6 game losing streak earlier this season in the Big East. But whereas South Florida has played a ridiculously easy conference schedule, Seton Hall's road has been one of the toughest conference schedules in the country, if not THE toughest.
During the 6 game losing streak, 3 of the losses were to teams currently in the top 25, the other two were to potential NCAA tourney teams South Florida and UConn and the only real questionable loss was at Villanova. Seton Hall, however, has not only the quality wins OOC we mentioned earlier, they have very good in-conference victories. West Virginia at home by 19 points, UCONN at home by 12 when they were ranked number 8 in the country back in the beginning of Jan. and a home win against Georgetown by 18 points. So again, yes, the loss to Rutgers was a bad one. But should they beat Depaul in their last game of the year, they will end up 9-9 in the Big East and 20-10 overall with quite a few big time wins. Winning a game or two in the tourney would help, but right now Seton Hall is definitely in for us over some of the Big East teams ahead of them in the conference standings.
Finally, we come to some of the mid-majors. A lot has been made of the "eye test". But to us, it's a numbers game. And the real number that counts to us is seventeen. As in, Drexel has won 17 freaking games in a row. They haven't lost since a road setback against Georgia State back on the second of January. That's almost 2 straight months without losing. They had two decent but not great road wins over Cleveland State and ODU and have very impressive home wins over VCU and GMU during that stretch. And not only have they won 17 straight, they've also won 23 of their last 24 games! 23 of 24 and 17 straight, even in a down CAA, should still be good enough to earn them an at-large, regardless of the bad early OOC portion of their schedule.
And honestly, the OOC portion wasn't THAT bad. They've lost 5 games all season long. Not one of those teams has a losing record. Delaware is 17-12, they lost that game on the road. Ga State is 20-10, against, conferene loss on the road. St. Joe's is 19-11, again, another road loss. UVA is a borderline top 25 team and it was a neutral court loss. The real loss the critics will point too is another neutral court, early season tourney loss to Norfolk State. Now most years, this would absolutely be a bad loss. But this year? The Spartans are 20-9 and having the best season in the HISTORY of their program! They took Marquette to the wire and lost 59-57 on a neutral court after having a lead late in the game. Norfolk State also has a neutral court victory over Texas Christian in the same tourney, a team that is currently 4th in the Mountain West, ahead of possible NCAA tourney bubble team Colorado State and a team that has victories this season over UVA, Colorado State, UNLV and New Mexico!
Hell, they beat Texas Christian by 13 points! The point is, a 5 point neutral court loss to Norfolk State back in November is NOT a valid reason to keep Drexel out of the tourney. Yes, Drexel lacks big OOC wins. Heck, they lack some big in conference wins as VCU and GMU are good but not great. But can you really keep a team that has won 17 straight and 23 of 24 out in favor of a 10th team from a power conference? We say no......but we will see if the selection committee agrees. Drexel would be well advised to at least make it to Sunday in the conference tourney, but if they do make it to Monday, they'd be 27-6 with a 19 game winning streak before their last lost and with ZERO bad losses on the season. It'd be very tough to keep them out.
The final two teams on this update are both A-10 teams, Xavier and St. Joseph's. The A-10 is MUCH better than anyone realized this year. There are 6 teams in the A-10 that we think could win an NCAA tourney game. Temple is an absolute lock for a big. St. Louis, at 22-6, is a borderline lock. Their OOC schedule isn't as strong, but their 10-4 mark in the A-10 and solid list of wins should get them in the tourney with the weak bubble field. Now, the teams that could all be potential tourney teams but for obvious seasons won't all get in are UMass, Xavier, St. Joe's and Dayton. Right away, we are going to rule UMass out. The OOC portion of their schedule sucked and quite frankly, they haven't done enough in conference to get an at-large bid. They do, however, provide a pretty decent rpi win for the other potential at-large teams in the A-10.
Dayton is also most likely out. The Flyers had a very solid OOC schedule, with double digit wins over Minnesota, Alabama and Ole Miss. They also had some head scratching losses. A blow out against Murray State didn't hurt them, but a 29 point home loss to a good but not great Buffalo team is mind blowing, a very bad loss to a crappy Miami of Ohio team in OT and a tough home loss to Seton Hall. Overall, a very tough OOC schedule, one of the best in the country, with some mixed results. When Dayton really looked like a bubble team is when they took down St. Louis and Temple in the A-10 to start the season. Those two wins over NCAA tourney teams (the road win at Temple was fantastic) to start conference play really made them look like a tourney team. They were 12-4 at that point and very close to cracking the top 25. But since then, they've gone 6-6 overall in conference play and have really not done themselves any favors to make the committe stand up and take notice.
The conferene wins over Temple and St. Louis to start the season have been followed up with conference victories over LaSalle, Xavier and a 30+ point win over UMass on Saturday. Their RPI is 61 and SOS is 53. Good numbers for an at-large team. More importantly, they are 3-3 against the Top 50, which is quite good. The real problem we see is that with St. Louis and Temple being locks, and Xavier squarely on the bubble, is the NCAA tourney committee REALLY read to take 4 teams from the A-10 this year? More importantly, Dayton is currently tied for 6th with UMass in the A-10. It's questionable whether that is good enough to consider them for an at-large either. However, they have two VERY winnable games left at Richmond and at home against George Washington. Win both of those, they get to 20-10 on the year and more importantly, 10-6 in the A-10. Win a game or two in the A-10 tourney and we may very well be talking about a 4 bid Atlantic Ten Conferene.
Finally, we end this update with the enigma of all enigma's, the Xavier Musketeers. We honestly don't have any clue what to make of them. Some fantastic wins, some tough losses, a very tough schedule, third place in the tough A-10, a crazy brawl and several player suspensions. Quite an interesting year. The real question is how will the selection committee consider the games they lost after the brawl, how it affected their season and will they decide to punish them for it?
In our estimation, Xavier is an NCAA tourney team. They are currently 9-5 in the A-10 and have ZERO bad losses in conference. 4 of their 5 conference losses are on the road, @ LaSalle, @ Dayton, @ Temple and @ UMass. Not a bad loss amongst them. The one home conference loss was to a tourney team in St. Louis. The Musketeers have also played a VERY tough schedule this year. 39th toughest OOC schedule and a top 50 RPI, although just barely. The home loss by 22 to Oral Roberts (again, a potential NCAA tourney team) hurt them, but again, 4 of their best players were suspended because of the brawl. They also lost their next 2 on a neutral court in the Maui Invitational to another NCAA tourney team in Long Beach State and then a tough loss to a very mediocre Hawaii team. Tough stretch. Again, it's all about how that brawl and the aftershock is weighed. It was by far their worst stretch of the season and they really struggled to regain their form for a while after that incident.
But, to counteract those losses, they have some VERY good wins. A road win at Vanderbilt, home wins over Purdue and Butler (although granted Butler is a shell of it's former self this year), a 23 point home blowout over Cincy in that brawl game, a win that cannot be overlooked. They also lost very tough OOC games to Gonzaga and Memphis later on in the season. In conference, however, they have failed to beat some of the other very top teams in the A-10. They haven't beaten Temple. They lost their only matchup so far against St. Louis. They would do very well to beat them in the rematch when it is played on Tuesday. They split against Dayton, but have beaten St. Bonnie and St. Joe's. So again, what do you make of them? Just one of the crazier seasons in all of college basketball, all things considered. 18-10 overall, 9-5 in the A-10, tough OOC schedule and solid RPI numbers. Plus a big old asterisk right in the middle of the season. The game at St. Louis is going to be huge. Win that and then a home "gimmie" over Charlote and they finish the regular season at 20-10, 11-5 in the A-10 and have a top 3 finish. Lose to St. Louis and they may have some work to do in the A-10 tourney.
So again, you see why we have that headline, "does anyone even want to play in the NCAA tourney this year". Some very, very shaky resumes out there, some teams that most years wouldn't have done nearly enough to get in the tournament have legit shots because of the weakness of the bubble. We'll have more updates later in the week on some of the other bubble teams in the country and don't forget, we will have our annual CAA tourney blog up and running from courtside at the CAA tourney in Richmond this weekend. Stay Tuned.